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york tenemos lluvia helada, la misma situaciÓn que se registra a porcprie de indiana, en wisconsin y michigan, asÍ que bueno el sureste con condiciones tranquilas, asÍ iniciamos el fin de semana, el sur con actividad de lluvia nuevamente, y otro desfile de tormentas para el noreste, en california, al sureste de los Ángeles condiciones tranquilas, y tenemos actividad de nieve que se mueve al norte del paÍs, para el fin de semana, ustedes en el noreste contando con condiciones mÁs agradables, y agradables en cuanto a temperaturas no es el caso, la temperatura que estuvimos experimentando por dos dÍa conssecutivas en 60 grados, llegan a su fin, hoy 46 grados, con nubosidad y lluvias se sentÍa mÁs fresco, y frÍo para muchos de ustedes, pero esta noche, el termÓmetro desciende, 27 grados, san antonio 58, la gran manzana 30 grados, chicago 47, y maÑana 18 grados en el norte, y los Ángeles 70 grados al otro eypr tremo de la uniÓn americana, 50 grados en nueva york, y detroit con 43, es todo, que tenga un excelente fin de semana, continuamos con mÁs de "primer impacto." >>> gracias jack
york tenemos lluvia helada, la misma situaciÓn que se registra a porcprie de indiana, en wisconsin y michigan, asÍ que bueno el sureste con condiciones tranquilas, asÍ iniciamos el fin de semana, el sur con actividad de lluvia nuevamente, y otro desfile de tormentas para el noreste, en california, al sureste de los Ángeles condiciones tranquilas, y tenemos actividad de nieve que se mueve al norte del paÍs, para el fin de semana, ustedes en el noreste contando con condiciones mÁs...
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mucha neblina, en el oeste algunas áreas sienten el frío, la nieve en wisconsin como en el norte de michigan, además, amigos de philadelphia, qué tal el cambio de clima, tienen 25 grados menos que ayer, ahora, señores, miren ustedes las fotos de ustedes de su arbolito, el primero es de fresno, la manda martha ramírez, la que sigue es de sandra, que fue armado el árbol por sus hijos, qué lindo con el nacimiento al lado, ahora vean el nacimiento que nos envía leonor bazán, y de nueva jersey sally nos muestra el arbolito al lado de la pequeña victoria alamonte, qué coqueta, ahora miren el arbolito de lizbeth morales, por último, sabía que hay árboles mexicanos? yo tampoco, pero miren ustedes el arbolito donde se siente el orgulloso mexicano, recuerde que mepuede enviar las fotos a @chrisblackwell y también a @despiertaameric, continuamos con más de @despiertaameric . >>> tengan paciencia, así que sigan mandando sus fotitos. >>> timbre. >>> quién abre. >>> pero qué pasó. >>> quién es. >>> buenos días. >>> buenos días, buenos días, cómo se encuentra. >>> necesita ayuda. >>
mucha neblina, en el oeste algunas áreas sienten el frío, la nieve en wisconsin como en el norte de michigan, además, amigos de philadelphia, qué tal el cambio de clima, tienen 25 grados menos que ayer, ahora, señores, miren ustedes las fotos de ustedes de su arbolito, el primero es de fresno, la manda martha ramírez, la que sigue es de sandra, que fue armado el árbol por sus hijos, qué lindo con el nacimiento al lado, ahora vean el nacimiento que nos envía leonor bazán, y de nueva...
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one of the paths was actually shown in michigan -- your own home state. so you have a very republican governor there and the nra was on the path to pass two really bad bills, one would eliminate background checks for concealed weapons, and the second would allow concealed carrying in places like day cares and schoolyards. and in a matter of weeks the nra had both of those initiatives completely reversed. we beat them on the first one, after the connecticut shootings the governor vetoed the bill and he should have. so the nra is on its heels at this point. >> jennifer: this weekend there were some successful gun buybacks in camden and san francisco and oakland. does your organization push for programs like those that -- where you don't have to worry about getting republican votes? >> we don't take a position on that kind of local policy. but new york city has gun buybacks and we found them to be one good tool. but in new york city we are the safest big city in the country, and have relatively few murders per capita and one reason is we have some of the str
one of the paths was actually shown in michigan -- your own home state. so you have a very republican governor there and the nra was on the path to pass two really bad bills, one would eliminate background checks for concealed weapons, and the second would allow concealed carrying in places like day cares and schoolyards. and in a matter of weeks the nra had both of those initiatives completely reversed. we beat them on the first one, after the connecticut shootings the governor vetoed the bill...
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a >>> the heaviest snow of the season is falling in parts of the dakotas, minnesota and michigan. there's been hundreds of car accidents in the past 24 hours. >>> and 800 santas, not the real guy, of course, he's busy, but just some folks who like to dress up and run around in the snow at the fourth annual santa claus running competition in germany. >>> when we come back, some of our bravest serving our country and serving well past active duty. that axiron is here. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women may occur. report these signs and symptoms to your doctor if they occur. tell your doctor about all medical conditions and medications. do not use if you have prostate or breast cancer. serious side effects could i
a >>> the heaviest snow of the season is falling in parts of the dakotas, minnesota and michigan. there's been hundreds of car accidents in the past 24 hours. >>> and 800 santas, not the real guy, of course, he's busy, but just some folks who like to dress up and run around in the snow at the fourth annual santa claus running competition in germany. >>> when we come back, some of our bravest serving our country and serving well past active duty. that axiron is here....
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(laughter) we begin tonight in michigan where ten months ago michigan's governor rick snyder -- (laughter). that's dee snyder. duke snyder. that's roy scheider. (laughter). (cheers and applause) that's just a picture of me looking aknowed with this bit. there we go. rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy.
(laughter) we begin tonight in michigan where ten months ago michigan's governor rick snyder -- (laughter). that's dee snyder. duke snyder. that's roy scheider. (laughter). (cheers and applause) that's just a picture of me looking aknowed with this bit. there we go. rick snyder. anyway, this (bleep) guy.
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the michigan senate just followed the statehouse and has now passed a bill to make michigan a right-to-work state. the vote was 22-10-16, if i have that right. just minutes ago on this program, governor reiick snyder said he would sign the bill. now that it's passed, looks like it's going to happen. imagine that. the union workers' paradise going right to work. >>> residents of the los angeles area seniors complex are up in arms over the owner's order to take down the christmas tree because they're religious symbols. the company's owned the complex for four years and won't comment about the order. people who live there a while say this has never happened before. we say, drop the ban and light up that tree and the minoras. let there be no secular tyranny. by the way, they are christmas trees. don't forget that. >>> for a moment, forget about the fiscal cliff. the u.s. is already in a recession and has been since july, according to my next guest. here now with details on this recession call is lakshman achuthan, the distinguished co-founder and chief operating officer of the economic cycle re
the michigan senate just followed the statehouse and has now passed a bill to make michigan a right-to-work state. the vote was 22-10-16, if i have that right. just minutes ago on this program, governor reiick snyder said he would sign the bill. now that it's passed, looks like it's going to happen. imagine that. the union workers' paradise going right to work. >>> residents of the los angeles area seniors complex are up in arms over the owner's order to take down the christmas tree...
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. >>> in our second story, michigan governor's could sign a controversial right to work bill by tuesday that allow workers to unionize companies to avoid paying dues. the critics would hurt union strength, but supporters say it will bring jobs to the state. democrats and union supporters are planning a massive rally at the state capital the same day. >>> in money news, holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the job report retailers hired more people in november than any other month. on record since 1939, according to the labor department. 146,000 jobs added to the economy last month and the unemployment rate fell to a four-year low of 7.7%, partly because thousands of people have just stopped looking for work. >>> at number four, president obama asking congress for $60.4 billion in emergency aid for superstorm sandy recovery efforts. thatie request falls short of total damage estimates. they say they'll need closer to $82 billion to repair their states. >>> it's been more than 15 years since he was mysteriously gunned down, but the los angeles coroner's office has finally released
. >>> in our second story, michigan governor's could sign a controversial right to work bill by tuesday that allow workers to unionize companies to avoid paying dues. the critics would hurt union strength, but supporters say it will bring jobs to the state. democrats and union supporters are planning a massive rally at the state capital the same day. >>> in money news, holiday hiring may have given a big boost to the job report retailers hired more people in november than any...
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and new at ten demonstrators in michigan should take note. earlier this year, indiana approved right to work laws. what secretary is the result? i'll tell you, more jobs. at the top of the hour how many more jobs that state will already have added. it's the time when i tell you that time is money and so in 30 seconds, here is what else we've got for you. just how many people are offended when someone wishes them a merry christmas, i'm going to find out. i'll say that to the head of the american atheists, chrysler workers caught on camera drinking and smoking pot get their jobs back. we'll talk to the reporter who broke the story two years ago. how many gun stores are there in america? how many grocery stores are there? the comparative numbers my surprise you. we've got a lot of opinions coming in to us on "varney & company" and we want to keep it flowing. varney@foxbusiness.com is how you reach us. i've got seven early movers for you, high profits, but less money coming in in the packaging company, greece it's called. what's with the stock? i
and new at ten demonstrators in michigan should take note. earlier this year, indiana approved right to work laws. what secretary is the result? i'll tell you, more jobs. at the top of the hour how many more jobs that state will already have added. it's the time when i tell you that time is money and so in 30 seconds, here is what else we've got for you. just how many people are offended when someone wishes them a merry christmas, i'm going to find out. i'll say that to the head of the american...
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he want what is is best for michigan. >> eric: we have to go. >> dana: 57% of michigan agree. >> bob: why did they attack the innocent what did they have against camping? >> eric: they attacked a tent. crowder was trying to make sure no one got hurt inside the tent. coming up, truth about the most controversial scenes in a controversial movie "zero dark thirty." a lot of backlash over the waterboarding staged in the bin laden raid film. keep it right here. on "the five." ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] in blind taste tests, even ragu users chose prego. prego?! but i've bought ragu for years. [ thinking ] wonder what other questionable choices i've made? i choose date number 2! whooo! [ sigh of relief ] [ male announcer ] choose taste. choose prego. the red cross was down here all the time. [ man ] they've given us a lot of heart. in times of need, they're there. ♪ [ kerry ] my dad was watching his house burn. he turned around, and all of a sudden, therwas this guy standing there from the red cross. at a point where i had just lost everything, the idea that there was someone there... that
he want what is is best for michigan. >> eric: we have to go. >> dana: 57% of michigan agree. >> bob: why did they attack the innocent what did they have against camping? >> eric: they attacked a tent. crowder was trying to make sure no one got hurt inside the tent. coming up, truth about the most controversial scenes in a controversial movie "zero dark thirty." a lot of backlash over the waterboarding staged in the bin laden raid film. keep it right here. on...
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now there are new concerns that a serial killer could be loose in michigan. a discovery in a drainpipe outside detroit. this is the second time in four months they have found human remains. police have sent the remains to a lab in texas for testing. they want to find out if the remains match a body found four months ago. that belonged to an unidentified female. >> so happy to not be at the airport. one of the busiest travel times of the entire year whether you are heading home for christmas or setting off on a winter holiday get away folks are racing to get where they need to be. the weather isn't exactly helping us. it is really complicated travel plans for so many. storm-related delays and cancellations and leaving passengers stranded. so as we get closer to christmas, will things turn around? david lee miller live from laguardia in queens. how is it looking there? >> jaime, passengers will get a welcome christmas gift this year. very few delays and cancellations two days before christmas. look at the arrivals and the departure board here at the american ai
now there are new concerns that a serial killer could be loose in michigan. a discovery in a drainpipe outside detroit. this is the second time in four months they have found human remains. police have sent the remains to a lab in texas for testing. they want to find out if the remains match a body found four months ago. that belonged to an unidentified female. >> so happy to not be at the airport. one of the busiest travel times of the entire year whether you are heading home for...
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michigan federal appeals court has reversed decision that banned nativity display folks in warrant, michigan put up a crest. atheists complained, nativity was removed. group defeated the atheist and we love that and now it's back. jewish guy thinks the whole war on christmas is insane. you say that for quite some time, mr. stein, right? >> i have. you can call me ben. i'm jewish. all of my ancestors are jewish. my son is jewish. i don't mind people saying merry christmas to me. i like calling it a christmas tree. it's a christmas holiday. it's a christian holiday. it's not a holiday, holiday. it's on not a atheist holiday but a christian holiday. >> it's a holiday that atheists can celebrate certainly under the banner. >> absolutely and jews can celebrate. it's a holiday. >> everybody can have a goodtim. >> it's a holiday marking the birth of a man or a some call him the son of god who said peace on earth and on earth goodwill to men. what could possibly be wrong with celebrating the ideas of a person who said something like that? >> bill: let me take it one step further and then i'm going t
michigan federal appeals court has reversed decision that banned nativity display folks in warrant, michigan put up a crest. atheists complained, nativity was removed. group defeated the atheist and we love that and now it's back. jewish guy thinks the whole war on christmas is insane. you say that for quite some time, mr. stein, right? >> i have. you can call me ben. i'm jewish. all of my ancestors are jewish. my son is jewish. i don't mind people saying merry christmas to me. i like...
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i yield to the gentleman from michigan. >> mr. speaker, i rise in opposition to this rule and the underlying bills. in the dead of night, five days before christmas, republicans introduced legislation they are rushing to the floor to get funding for health care, food assistance, and other vital services. christmas is a season of giving. but republicans are taking food off of the table of millions of americans by cutting food assistance by $36 billion. taking the unemployment lifeline away from 2 million americans who are trying to get back on their feet. taking funding away from block grants that provide productive services for abused children. why would republicans insist on taking so much away from our families during this holiday season? so they can give an average $50,000 tax breaks to millionaires. i urge my colleagues to stand up for millions of children and workers who are facing in real cliff. vote no on the rule and the bill. >> at this time, i am happy to yield two minutes to a colorful calling from the ways and means co
i yield to the gentleman from michigan. >> mr. speaker, i rise in opposition to this rule and the underlying bills. in the dead of night, five days before christmas, republicans introduced legislation they are rushing to the floor to get funding for health care, food assistance, and other vital services. christmas is a season of giving. but republicans are taking food off of the table of millions of americans by cutting food assistance by $36 billion. taking the unemployment lifeline away...
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>> take a look at michigan, seen as the center of the labor movement. even the top four union members states could be at risk. at the top you have new york with one in four workers a union member, followed by alaska, hawaii and washington. the number you see on the screen right here, which is the advocacy money, that could be what's changing these traditional union states. according to the nation, we look at those numbers from 2008 to 2011, right to work money was $18 million. pro-union, just $2 million. >> thanks so much. always good to see you. that does it for me. let's go to thomas roberts. >>> good morning, everybody. coming up, we're also touching on the right to work debate. we will talk with a republican chair with the seiu who also leads a union in michigan. we will talk about big labor's plans to fight back in the wake of that devastating setback yesterday in michigan. >>> plus, walking a mile in speaker john boehner's shoes. former speaker denney hastert joining me about boehner's dance with the president on the edge of the fiscal cliff. >>>
>> take a look at michigan, seen as the center of the labor movement. even the top four union members states could be at risk. at the top you have new york with one in four workers a union member, followed by alaska, hawaii and washington. the number you see on the screen right here, which is the advocacy money, that could be what's changing these traditional union states. according to the nation, we look at those numbers from 2008 to 2011, right to work money was $18 million. pro-union,...
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college basketball, number three michigan rolled over western michigan, 73-41. and that extends the wolverine's streak to seven wins, no losses. congratulations to them. late in the second half, north carolina state's c.j. lessly takes it to the hole for the jam. the wolfpack defeats uconn 69-65. >>> the "boston globe" reports that the red sox have made a three years, are $38 million offer to dodgers and phillies center fielder shane victorino. >>> and los angeles galaxy soccer star david beckham finally said good-bye after six years, thanked his fans. the team won its second mls championship saturday, but beckham has in the yet announced where he'll play in the future. and now for another look at the weather, here is bill karins with the weather channel forecast. >> a big beckham fan? >> yeah, he's a good-bye. not too bad on the eyes. >> people everywhere just turned the audio down. hope you're off to a good start. heading out this morning, a few umbrellas needed in boston up to portsmouth and all of maine. you'll get a quick dose of rain. cold front will cool
college basketball, number three michigan rolled over western michigan, 73-41. and that extends the wolverine's streak to seven wins, no losses. congratulations to them. late in the second half, north carolina state's c.j. lessly takes it to the hole for the jam. the wolfpack defeats uconn 69-65. >>> the "boston globe" reports that the red sox have made a three years, are $38 million offer to dodgers and phillies center fielder shane victorino. >>> and los angeles...
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, and means a lot more companies might be willing to locate in michigan. and remember, if you have your own hit or miss, please send it to us at jer@foxnews.com and follow us on twitter@jer on fnc. that's it for the show and thanks to my ponl and all of you for watching, i'm paul gigot, we hope to see you here next week. >> on fox news watch. >> coach ryan,'s got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. the same problem the republicans are having. who is the quarterback, mr. president. >> the quarterback on the democratic side is the president of the united states. he keeps throwing interceptions and we're moving backwards and backward and backward. >> jon: congress doing battle over the budget. republicans say they want to cut government spending and democrats say they want to do all they can to push the president's plan, but is his plan good for the country or just good for him? and do the media know the >> a vast majority of our major media in this country is on his side. that no matter what he says, what he does, even though what he's doing is outrageous,
, and means a lot more companies might be willing to locate in michigan. and remember, if you have your own hit or miss, please send it to us at jer@foxnews.com and follow us on twitter@jer on fnc. that's it for the show and thanks to my ponl and all of you for watching, i'm paul gigot, we hope to see you here next week. >> on fox news watch. >> coach ryan,'s got a problem. he has three quarterbacks. the same problem the republicans are having. who is the quarterback, mr. president....
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totals are incredible for portions of wisconsin close to 20 inches of middleton cross lanes and even michigan at a foot of snow. and with the blowing snow that is causing the treacherous conditions on the roadways and in the air. i want to point out we have another storm moving in the pacific northwest and california. this is the main event millions of people live here millions of people traveling to get home. low pressure system is centered across the great lakes, the cold front associated with it moving across the northeast. that low will move into canada and the front will push offshore later on today. for now anywhere from philly to boston very messy. a lot of folks heading to the airport. it will be a very trying morning unfortunately on all of the major airports across the corridor. that low moves into canada and the associated cold front will push out pretty quickly. by today around 9:00 a.m. moving nort new york city and by 3 p. mchl the bulk of the rainfall will be in new england and the snow. we will see the leftover snow across the great lakes. in some cases we could see a foot of
totals are incredible for portions of wisconsin close to 20 inches of middleton cross lanes and even michigan at a foot of snow. and with the blowing snow that is causing the treacherous conditions on the roadways and in the air. i want to point out we have another storm moving in the pacific northwest and california. this is the main event millions of people live here millions of people traveling to get home. low pressure system is centered across the great lakes, the cold front associated...
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the people of michigan are outraged. we're talking to lansing, michigan mayor virg bernero. stay tuned. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed >>> welcome back to "the ed show." we told you at the top of the show republicans are dragging their feet to get a tax cut deal with the american people. those republican delays are putting our economic recovery, i think, in some serious neighborhood, dangerous, very dangerous. the good news, though, the latest employment numbers came out this morning. the economy added 146,000 jobs in the month of november. the unemployment rate hit a four-year low. it inched down to 7.7%. here's the bad news. america lost another 7,000 manufacturing jobs last month. overall these job numbers are better than analysts predicted, but republicans refuse to compromise on policies which will bring back even more jobs next year. they are risking our nation's economic recovery. here's house speaker john boehner's today. >> the risk the president wants us to take, increasing tax rates will hit many small businesses that produce 60 to 70% of the new
the people of michigan are outraged. we're talking to lansing, michigan mayor virg bernero. stay tuned. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed >>> welcome back to "the ed show." we told you at the top of the show republicans are dragging their feet to get a tax cut deal with the american people. those republican delays are putting our economic recovery, i think, in some serious neighborhood, dangerous, very dangerous. the good news, though, the latest...
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what do you think the impact in michigan would be? >> i think the impact in michigan is going to be the same that we've seen in all of the other states that have passed this terrible legislation. and that is we're going to see wages decline. we're going to see good benefits decline. we're going to see workplaces become less safe. the fact is that this has not been good for economic growth in any of the states that have enacted right to work laws. they have unemployment rates that are as high or higher than michigan's. pushing right to work is the surest path to poverty that anybody could pursue here in michigan. >> there were some pretty big demonstrations last thursday at the state capitol to protest this. kind of reminisce sant of what we saw in wisconsin and ohio when those states voted on these union issues. what are you expecting tomorrow? what's your prediction? >> i think we're going to see thousands and thousands of people here in lansing who are protesting not just about the substance of this terrible legislation of so-called
what do you think the impact in michigan would be? >> i think the impact in michigan is going to be the same that we've seen in all of the other states that have passed this terrible legislation. and that is we're going to see wages decline. we're going to see good benefits decline. we're going to see workplaces become less safe. the fact is that this has not been good for economic growth in any of the states that have enacted right to work laws. they have unemployment rates that are as...
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siendo un peligro debido a la nieve >>en el congelado lago iris, se produjo este rescate, un hombre de michigan quedó atrapado cuando intentaba rescatar a su perro, sin embargo pudo pedir ayuda mediante el celular, el rescate tardo una hora. >>y en méxico temperaturas por debajo cero grados y pordrían descender más debido a un frente frío que proviene del sur de estados unidos. la autoridad exhorta a tomar precauciones, vacunarse contra las influenza >>y se apresan a presuntos integrantes de los zetas, estos habrian confesado haber asesinado a hombres y diez mujeres. >>y a dos semanas de la masacre el connecticut, esto traspasa fronteras, en colombia crean ropa blindada. >>tan grave es la cicatriz dejada en estados unidos por la masacre de connecticut, que llegaron pedidos para este diseñador pidiendo cree ropa blindada para niños >>fue tan angustiosa la carta de un padre. >>y de inmediato ordeno crear prendas de seguridad. >>desarrollar una línea de chalecos para tener en las escuelas. >>es una tarea que lo puso a prueba, no solo como diseñador y padre la primera en darle su opinión
siendo un peligro debido a la nieve >>en el congelado lago iris, se produjo este rescate, un hombre de michigan quedó atrapado cuando intentaba rescatar a su perro, sin embargo pudo pedir ayuda mediante el celular, el rescate tardo una hora. >>y en méxico temperaturas por debajo cero grados y pordrían descender más debido a un frente frío que proviene del sur de estados unidos. la autoridad exhorta a tomar precauciones, vacunarse contra las influenza >>y se apresan a...
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we are headed to michigan carry who is shopping and welcome to hsn. --% gary >>caller: hi how are you doing? >>host: wetwisted your are many of the today's special? >>caller: yes i did. i was looking at some of the bigger ones were 400-$600. i like all the options on this and i love your return policy you have >>host: 60 i am doing all my last minute christmas shopping and who once a tassel or to haggle with a are you getting it for yourself >>caller: it is for myself. >>host: even better gary i like that. the $500.600 dollar tablets and they charge you extra for all those extra features and memory right? --$500- are going to have a ball with this. >>caller: i have a desktop and a 17 inch laptop that is a little too big and i think this will be just the right size. >>host: yeah i think so too. he made an excellent choice and thank you for stopping by hsn. we hope you have a great christmas of k? >>caller: a nice merry christmas as well. -- ok >>host: (...) you can play. >>guest: i
we are headed to michigan carry who is shopping and welcome to hsn. --% gary >>caller: hi how are you doing? >>host: wetwisted your are many of the today's special? >>caller: yes i did. i was looking at some of the bigger ones were 400-$600. i like all the options on this and i love your return policy you have >>host: 60 i am doing all my last minute christmas shopping and who once a tassel or to haggle with a are you getting it for yourself >>caller: it is for...
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particularly in michigan. michigan is a a state that was create -- created by labor unions and probably a hire percentage of labor unions in michigan than any other state. we'll be right back with amanda terkel from "huffington post." >> announcer: on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." at facebook.com/billpressshow and on twitter at bpshow. >>i believe people are hungry for it. >>bill shares his views, now it's your turn. >>i know you're going to want to weigh in on these issues. >>connect with "full court press with bill press" at facebook.com/billpressshow and on twitter at bpshow. >>i believe people are hungry for it. let's rock and roll. there is so much going on that every day presents another exciting issue. from financial regulation, iran getting a nuclear bomb, civil war in syria, fraud on wall street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave
particularly in michigan. michigan is a a state that was create -- created by labor unions and probably a hire percentage of labor unions in michigan than any other state. we'll be right back with amanda terkel from "huffington post." >> announcer: on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." at facebook.com/billpressshow and on twitter at bpshow. >>i believe people are hungry for it. >>bill shares his views, now it's your turn. >>i...
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it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired. the union said, have you to pay for a union strike in new york, or we will get you fired when i was writing editorials against the strike in new york. so this is the -- it is that kind of coercion, which is coming to an end, everywhere. you heard it right here. the folks in michigan said, we looked at indiana, they are gettingions, businesses are coming in there. that's why we did it. they look south, where are the foreign companies coming? spartanburg, south carolina, bmwar plants, mercedes, tuscaloosa. volkswagen volkswagen, chattanooga, nissan plant. whe
it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired....
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right now lake michigan is two feet below it's average. why? because of record drought after last summer's record-breaking heat. it's not just the great lakes. if you follow the illinois tributary leading up to lake michigan into feeding into the mississippi, you finally get to st. louis. there is a 180-mile stretch of river that has withered from a thousand feet wide to just a few hundred feet. then a little further down between thebes and eye crow, cairo illinois, there are the pinnacles. they're legendary for boat captains because they had to navigate around them. but now because of the low river levels, it's impossible to pass there. now the army corp of engineers have set to destroy the big rocks in 15. right now senators and house committee members have asked the federal government to make it happen sooner. now thousands of barges are having trouble getting through. now that is a major problem for all of us. those ships bring 8 million tons of grain coal, steal and petroleum down the river every single month. now they're carrying less car
right now lake michigan is two feet below it's average. why? because of record drought after last summer's record-breaking heat. it's not just the great lakes. if you follow the illinois tributary leading up to lake michigan into feeding into the mississippi, you finally get to st. louis. there is a 180-mile stretch of river that has withered from a thousand feet wide to just a few hundred feet. then a little further down between thebes and eye crow, cairo illinois, there are the pinnacles....
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obama the road to michigan he was trying to sell his tax hike proposal. he claimed michigan's law that gives workers the right to choose whether or not they want to be long to a union is about politics not economics. listen to this. >> we have to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to better bargains. >> so-called right to work laws they don't have to do with economics they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. we don't want a race to the bottom. we want a race to the top. we -- (applause) >> america is not going to compete based on low skill, low wage, no worker's rights. we have to get past this whole situation where we manufacturer crises because of politics. >> despite what the president said the new right to work law does include collective bargaining rights. while preached the right to workers he says american people show compassion. speaker boehner while he fights to keep america from plunging off the fiscal cliff. >> if you have an
obama the road to michigan he was trying to sell his tax hike proposal. he claimed michigan's law that gives workers the right to choose whether or not they want to be long to a union is about politics not economics. listen to this. >> we have to say this. what we shouldn't be doing is trying to take away your rights to better bargains. >> so-called right to work laws they don't have to do with economics they have everything to do with politics. what they are really talking about is...
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>> politically, of course, this could be a major blow to unions in michigan. last month, their voters rejected a referendum that would have made passage of this law unconstitutional. if that right to work law passes, union supporters are convinced pay and benefit could take a major dive. the latest bureau of labor statistics for 2011 put the median salary for full-time union workers at about $940 week compared to about $730 a week for nonunion workers. the head of the united auto workers not happy. >> the data and all the facts show that right to work is the right to work for less. >> susan, supporters including republicans led by gop governor rick snyder maintain that this bill will wind up helping the economy and not hurting it, right. >> that's right allison. the governor insists that the right to work bill will save jobs and increase salaries by not forcing union dues on workers. here's michigan governor rick snyder. >> to give freedom of choice to our workplace and that legislators move promptly and efficiently in moving it through the legislature and whe
>> politically, of course, this could be a major blow to unions in michigan. last month, their voters rejected a referendum that would have made passage of this law unconstitutional. if that right to work law passes, union supporters are convinced pay and benefit could take a major dive. the latest bureau of labor statistics for 2011 put the median salary for full-time union workers at about $940 week compared to about $730 a week for nonunion workers. the head of the united auto workers...
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the automaker announcing its plan to pump three quarters of a billion dollars into plants in michigan. 2,300 new jobs. >>> and speaking of made in america, our christmas challenge. and tonight, the big reveal here. the factories saying thank you for the joy and the jobs you created. merry christmas. it was the made in america christmas challenge. you can see the christmas lights are up. across the country, even the mall of america. inside, santa taking those requests. david muir with "world news." how are you? >> oh, good. how are you? >> reporter: i'm just curious. of those kids sitting on santa's lap, how much of what they're asking for is made in america? >> oh, oh. i guess -- ah -- i guess -- i guess -- >> reporter: you'll remember, even the elf was stumped, telling us he couldn't answer those kinds of questions. but if you look closely, we guaranteed you could find made in america. just one thing, $64, creates 200,000 jobs, say economists. and it turns out, you found it. viewers like kerry mcdonald, from iowa. >> fiestaware, made in the united states. >> reporter: new plates and
the automaker announcing its plan to pump three quarters of a billion dollars into plants in michigan. 2,300 new jobs. >>> and speaking of made in america, our christmas challenge. and tonight, the big reveal here. the factories saying thank you for the joy and the jobs you created. merry christmas. it was the made in america christmas challenge. you can see the christmas lights are up. across the country, even the mall of america. inside, santa taking those requests. david muir with...
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. >> no doubt about it new survey out from reuters, michigan in early december we saw consumer sentiment drop to the lowest level that we have seen since august. that suggests, according to analysts that the increased taxes they are expecting from this fiscal crisis is weighing on consumer spending right now. the other side of this though, of course, is vice president biden went to a diner today to talk to some middle class folks and he basically said he has been talking to business leaders to say the converse of this is if there is a fiscal deal business leaders tell him the economy will be unleashed. take a listen. >> the upside is even bigger than the downside. they are ready to move they have well over a trillion dollars out there continue to vest if they think that the economy is going to move. >> and i have been talking to officials in both pears who say that has been the most surprising thing to leaders in washington here in private is that the markets have remained relatively stable despite this uncertainty here in washington. it will take though just one or two days next week or
. >> no doubt about it new survey out from reuters, michigan in early december we saw consumer sentiment drop to the lowest level that we have seen since august. that suggests, according to analysts that the increased taxes they are expecting from this fiscal crisis is weighing on consumer spending right now. the other side of this though, of course, is vice president biden went to a diner today to talk to some middle class folks and he basically said he has been talking to business...
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allen in michigan. >> jim, booyah. i'm currently holding sprint and i've had a pretty decent gain. >> i don't want you to take that gain. i want to buy one. do not sell sprint it is a good one. matt in michigan. >> i was wondering about toyota or ford. >> i pulled up with the subaru guy. their business is good. i prefer ford to toyota. tracy in arkansas. >> yes, booyah. >> ctlp or cplp. >> okay yeah. it is an mlp. i've not like international shipping. we are going with the tried and true. let's go to bo in missouri. >> tell me about pepsico. >> i don't think it does anything either way until next quarter. i want to buy berkshire hathaway. a great housing play. let's go to corey in north carolina. >> how about the red skins last night? >> alfred morris has put me at 7 and 6 in my fantasy league. the pringles is good. raw costs coming down. management has it together and kellogg is for me. and that is the conclusion of the lightning round. coming up. rise above. cramer is keeping you one step ahead of the fiscal cliff fi
allen in michigan. >> jim, booyah. i'm currently holding sprint and i've had a pretty decent gain. >> i don't want you to take that gain. i want to buy one. do not sell sprint it is a good one. matt in michigan. >> i was wondering about toyota or ford. >> i pulled up with the subaru guy. their business is good. i prefer ford to toyota. tracy in arkansas. >> yes, booyah. >> ctlp or cplp. >> okay yeah. it is an mlp. i've not like international shipping....
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. >>> in michigan they're working to pass a right to work law. some workers in the state are not happy about one thing, and that's next. >>> you don't have to inbound front of a television to watch cnn, you can do it if your computer at work, go to cnn.com/tv. >>> this is a terrible story out of western pennsylvania. a little boy, 7 years old, shot to death in the parking lot of this gun store north of pittsburgh. police say the boy was buckling himself into a car seat when the pistol his father was handling in the front seat accidentally went off. can you imagine? the bullet hit the boy and he died at the scene. the father could face charges over this. authorities say he is beside himself. >> the father is traumatized and visibly shaken. it's -- experienced probably the worst tragedy anybody can go through is to take your own son's life. >> officers that talked to the father say he was not aware that his pistol was even loaded. >>> president barack obama visits union heavy michigan tomorrow, a state he won easily last month and now the center of
. >>> in michigan they're working to pass a right to work law. some workers in the state are not happy about one thing, and that's next. >>> you don't have to inbound front of a television to watch cnn, you can do it if your computer at work, go to cnn.com/tv. >>> this is a terrible story out of western pennsylvania. a little boy, 7 years old, shot to death in the parking lot of this gun store north of pittsburgh. police say the boy was buckling himself into a car...
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this is not uniting michigan. this is dividing michigan. jeff: you lost proposition two. you lost that. the governor said that if i know why he brought this to the floor. >> the governor had signed a number of right-wing bills. teachers would not have, be able to outdo deductions. it was crazy. we see the pattern. we try to preempt that by getting proposition two. too many things on the ballot. we did not pass that. we are here to fight that. jeff: great to talk to you. the economy goes on. we will see what the impact of this is. we will give you one more look of the crowd outside the michigan capital. no violence, thus far. dagen: jeff flock, thank you very much. connell: judge andrew napolitano. the president, president obama actually hit on this yesterday. saying the state has the right to work does not mean it takes away the rights of the union. >> right. in a right to work state, what that means is you have the right to a job in the government cannot force you to join a union or if you refuse to join, take dues and give it to the union. the government and say join th
this is not uniting michigan. this is dividing michigan. jeff: you lost proposition two. you lost that. the governor said that if i know why he brought this to the floor. >> the governor had signed a number of right-wing bills. teachers would not have, be able to outdo deductions. it was crazy. we see the pattern. we try to preempt that by getting proposition two. too many things on the ballot. we did not pass that. we are here to fight that. jeff: great to talk to you. the economy goes...
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>>> and michigan's governor signs the state's controversial new right-to-work law, but not before labor activists protest throughout the capital. captioning funded by cbs >>> >>> this is the "cbs morning news" for wednesday, december 12, 2012. >>> good morning, everybody. i'm terrell brown. good to be with you. >>> oregon officials have tentatively identify the gunman who opened fire at a business shopping mall. christmas music was playing as the lone gunman fired shots yesterday afternoon near the food court at one of portland's largest shopping malls. the gunman killed two people and seriously wounded another before taking his own life. one witness heard him say, "i am the shooter," as he fired dozens of rounds into the machlt bigad shaban is live. good morning to you. >> reporter: terrell, good morning to you. it's an eerie and quiet scene here. it's a much different scene than yesterday when that masked gunman began firing inside one of the busiest malls in the portland area. cell phone video shows police escorting shoppers to safety, and the first moments after a masked gunman open
>>> and michigan's governor signs the state's controversial new right-to-work law, but not before labor activists protest throughout the capital. captioning funded by cbs >>> >>> this is the "cbs morning news" for wednesday, december 12, 2012. >>> good morning, everybody. i'm terrell brown. good to be with you. >>> oregon officials have tentatively identify the gunman who opened fire at a business shopping mall. christmas music was playing...
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from kalamazoo, michigan, 700 bracelets from a local business and from students, headed to newtown. flower seeds inside each of those smiley faces for the community to wear and plant. and for the newtown police department? officers around connecticut banding together, volunteering to work on christmas day so every newtown officer can have the day off with their family. and at their town hall, mountains of donated toys from all corners of the country, even hurricane sandy victims sending comfort and kindness from what little they have left. >> we had so much help, we wanted to pay it forward and try to help somebody else. >> reporter: nearly two months since sandy and many still live without power. volunteers going door to door. one family said they just wanted a christmas tree for their children. so, volunteers from maryland got to work. in one of the most devastated neighborhoods, we spotted a secret santa, known as sandy claus, making special deliveries. >> it was just amazing. i couldn't stop smiling. i just love to see the look on the kids' faces and just see them glow and final
from kalamazoo, michigan, 700 bracelets from a local business and from students, headed to newtown. flower seeds inside each of those smiley faces for the community to wear and plant. and for the newtown police department? officers around connecticut banding together, volunteering to work on christmas day so every newtown officer can have the day off with their family. and at their town hall, mountains of donated toys from all corners of the country, even hurricane sandy victims sending comfort...
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michigan is one of the most heavily unionized states. the republican controlled legislature is expected to take action on the bill. for "cbs this morning," elaine quijano, lancing, michigan. >> they will reveal new details about the plane crash that killed jenny rivera. there are already serious questions about the plane and the man at the controls. >> reporter: remains of the deceased reportedly were removed for analysis monday. investigators scoured the crash site for pieces of the plane, but they will be looking at more than the wreckage according to former ntsb investigator. >> what did the pilots do over the last 72 hours? we're going to be looking at their schedule. were they fatigued. >> the reported ages of the pilot, 78, and his temporary license have come under scrutiny. faa records show the registered owner of the leerjet 25 built in 19 69d is starwood management llc of las vegas. the plane's history is one accident in 2005 when ntsb says the plane suffered substantial damage. >> certainly i'd be looking at the condition of th
michigan is one of the most heavily unionized states. the republican controlled legislature is expected to take action on the bill. for "cbs this morning," elaine quijano, lancing, michigan. >> they will reveal new details about the plane crash that killed jenny rivera. there are already serious questions about the plane and the man at the controls. >> reporter: remains of the deceased reportedly were removed for analysis monday. investigators scoured the crash site for...
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after the break cities like detroit michigan for the broad republican prasher of the nation's financial industry five years later is no way past time for the federal government to step up and help cities like detroit get back on their feet. with a. science technology innovation called the least of elements from around russia we've got the future covered. the gold fever. turned thousands into slaves. much but also among brotherhood involved in the mines and since i started working on them when i studied. this multinationals. there's a cash cow to be milked dry and it's time i think that in this country gold medal logie as an environmental cost which is an acceptable local business was labeled illegal and controlled by criminals you know in order to protect our lives our families and to work in peace. but we are forced to pay protection to illegal groups what price is colombia going to pay. the people. the modest affect on our t.v. . in screwed news the city of detroit is asking president obama for some help this week detroit city councilwoman joanne watson called for a financial lifeline
after the break cities like detroit michigan for the broad republican prasher of the nation's financial industry five years later is no way past time for the federal government to step up and help cities like detroit get back on their feet. with a. science technology innovation called the least of elements from around russia we've got the future covered. the gold fever. turned thousands into slaves. much but also among brotherhood involved in the mines and since i started working on them when i...
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after the break cities like detroit michigan bore the brunt of the republican prasher of the nation's financial industry five years later is no way past time for the federal government to step up and help cities like detroit get back on their feet. here as mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call a donor. i'm sorry i'm just a guy here's an awful lot of money for you sir are you know what that is my other terror cells right now want to give us a defeat terrorism the only poll the christian. can you believe it's. going to put you to distract us from what you and i should care about because there are profit driven industry that's sensationalistic garbage because that breaking news i'm having martin and we're going to break that. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it. and then you. see some other part of it and realized everything. welcome to the big picture. in screwed news the city of detroit is asking president obama for some help this week detroit city councilwoman joanne watson called for a financial
after the break cities like detroit michigan bore the brunt of the republican prasher of the nation's financial industry five years later is no way past time for the federal government to step up and help cities like detroit get back on their feet. here as mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call a donor. i'm sorry i'm just a guy here's an awful lot of money for you sir are you know what that is my other terror cells right now want to give us a defeat...
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now we're seeing speech leading to actual physical violence in michigan. the issue is a new state law that allows michigan work force legally opt out of joining a union. president obama and most union leadersship despise the law saying it will hurt the power of workers to bargain for better wages and benefits. yesterday the three television evening news programs on the networks covered the intense situation. >> the anger boiling over. officers turning to pepper spray to control the crowd at least 10,000 deep. >> union members from across michigan and other states voiced their anger at the michigan capitol. >> despite the chill, today thousands of union workers far outnumbered supporters. directing their anger toward republican lawmakers and governor rick snyder. under the watchful gaze of police some in riot gear, protesters swarmed the governor's office building, finding the doors locked. >> after a boieser days. >> bill: there is a difference between being boisterous and violent. here the networks miss add big component of the story. perhaps they missed
now we're seeing speech leading to actual physical violence in michigan. the issue is a new state law that allows michigan work force legally opt out of joining a union. president obama and most union leadersship despise the law saying it will hurt the power of workers to bargain for better wages and benefits. yesterday the three television evening news programs on the networks covered the intense situation. >> the anger boiling over. officers turning to pepper spray to control the crowd...
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hundreds of union workers responding to michigan's republican controlled legislature's push to make michigan the 24th right to work state. the vote takes place tuesday. governor snyder is now backing the plan. >> this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't the the opportunity to say they want to be long or not. second piece is this will be good for economic development for more p and better jobs coming to michigan. >> the union workers agree with the governor they argue michigan was built on unions. they claim the gop majority state legislature is making an attack on the middle class. >> on tuesday it's important because they are going to try to reconcile the bills. the governor who said he didn't want the legislation now says he is going to sign it. so it's an attack on working families and we are going to be there and not stand for it. >> they are still standing for it because over the weekend union organizers continue to prepare their numbers for take to go the streets this week staging demonstrations against the measure. if the vote goes through they say it will hurt organize
hundreds of union workers responding to michigan's republican controlled legislature's push to make michigan the 24th right to work state. the vote takes place tuesday. governor snyder is now backing the plan. >> this is solely focused on their relationship. shouldn't the the opportunity to say they want to be long or not. second piece is this will be good for economic development for more p and better jobs coming to michigan. >> the union workers agree with the governor they argue...
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. >>> protesters rallying against michigan's right to work legislation are expected to have their biggest demonstration yet at the state capitol today. the measure would bar unions from requiring non-union workers to pay union fees. president obama criticized the legislation, saying it's about giving workers the right to work for less money. the republican governor is backing the proposal. but democrats met with him yesterday to urge a veto. >>> protests are also expected in egypt today. the military in position near cairo's presidential palace, keeping an eye on opponents of president mohamed morsi. they, along with morsi supporters, are both staging massive marches today, ahead of saturday's vote, on a draft constitution. that referendum and morsi's power grab in the last month, set off the worst violence since last year's revolution. >>> also, breaking news this morning from south africa. we learned that former president nelson mandela is suffering from a recuring lung infection. doctors say the 94-year-old leader is responding to dreemt. mandela has been in the hospital since saturday
. >>> protesters rallying against michigan's right to work legislation are expected to have their biggest demonstration yet at the state capitol today. the measure would bar unions from requiring non-union workers to pay union fees. president obama criticized the legislation, saying it's about giving workers the right to work for less money. the republican governor is backing the proposal. but democrats met with him yesterday to urge a veto. >>> protests are also expected in...
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michigan workers get up every day to literally build, grow and make michigan a fantastic state. they deserve much better respect than that. >> brian: there was a referendum on the ballot to make michigan a permanent union state. how did that go? >> it was overwhelmingly rejected by the voters of our state. it was an overreach and i think the voters spoke very clearly against putting that in our state constitution. >> brian: how do you defuse the anger, if the majority of people are in your camp on this, how do you defuse the anger before the 10 to 15 at least that are upset and the thousands of school teachers that didn't go to work on tuesday in protest? >> as we saw, again, much of those protesters were brought if from out of state. what i think we need to do is focus on michigan's workers. i think we need to focus now, the unions will remain free to make their case. but now michigan workers will become free to make their choice. and ultimately i think this is about opportunity. this is about new jobs and better careers for michigan workers. michigan's brightest days are in fr
michigan workers get up every day to literally build, grow and make michigan a fantastic state. they deserve much better respect than that. >> brian: there was a referendum on the ballot to make michigan a permanent union state. how did that go? >> it was overwhelmingly rejected by the voters of our state. it was an overreach and i think the voters spoke very clearly against putting that in our state constitution. >> brian: how do you defuse the anger, if the majority of...
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. >> la zona afectada esta noche y maÑana kentucky, michigan, nueva inglaterra y nieve producto del paso de la baja presiÓn. >> al norte de california una avalancha enterrÓ y le quito la vida a un aficionado del deporte, tambiÉn la cancelaciÓn de 1.600 vuelos y el retraso de otros 1.500, las pistas congeladas tambiÉn no son buenas noticias. >> en nevada las calles son trampas mortales, la poca visibilidad en utah ha sido la causante de decenas de accidente lo mismo ocurre en arizona, en denver los trabajadores trabajan sin parar para evitar mÁs accidentados. >> el poderoso sistema de tormenta se dirige al noreste del paÍs. >> en informe de Último minuto indican que el ex presidente go geor geor geor george bush padre estÁ hospitalizado. >> entretanto el ex presidente de sudÁfrica nelson mandela abandonÓ hoy dÍa el hospital por una infecciÓn pulmonar, tiene 94 aÑos de edad y fue el primer negro en llegar a la presidencia de su paÍs en 1994. >> la gran confianza que le tenÍa jenni rivera a la hermana menor rossi, dispuso que ella se harÁ cargo de su fortuna y sus hijos, as
. >> la zona afectada esta noche y maÑana kentucky, michigan, nueva inglaterra y nieve producto del paso de la baja presiÓn. >> al norte de california una avalancha enterrÓ y le quito la vida a un aficionado del deporte, tambiÉn la cancelaciÓn de 1.600 vuelos y el retraso de otros 1.500, las pistas congeladas tambiÉn no son buenas noticias. >> en nevada las calles son trampas mortales, la poca visibilidad en utah ha sido la causante de decenas de accidente lo mismo...